9 comments on “The Wise Man’s Fear Mini-Review-Thing

  1. It seems a lot of folks are getting turned off by the end of WMF, primarily because of the scenes you mentioned. I was certainly surprised by it, as Kvothe’s relationship with the mysterious Denna is so very chaste all the time. But I trust Rothfuss to have put all that in there for a good reason.

    Wouldn’t it be insane if there was a little Kvothe running around somewhere?

  2. His approach to sex is so juvenile… so cavemanish (yes, I made that word up). I think that’s what shocked me the most.

    Regardless, a true classic is a book that can be read by ANYONE. And I would certainly not let my children read it or recommend it to any of my family or friends.

    I’m sad to say it. I sincerely wanted to love this book as much as I adored The Name of the Wind.

  3. caveman-ish . . . you know, I can’t argue with that. some of the scenes were quite lacking in the eloquence of the earlier parts of the book. although the iambic pentameter conversation cracked me up to no end.

    there are plenty of family friend and younger-reader-appropriate classics floating around, so I’m not as bothered that this one is for grown ups only.

  4. I’m glad you were able to overcome the story’s obvious shortcomings and enjoy the book. I could not.

  5. Like you I found the second half of the novel lacking. So lacking, in fact, that after powering through the first part in a day and a half I was taking so long getting through the second half that I. Stopped. Reading.

    Now I don’t problems with the fact that there was sex. I like George R.R. Martin ffs. But I’ll get to that.

    (There are some spoilers here, I don’t really apologize, am just warning)
    I felt like in the second half of the novel Rothfuss spent SOOOO many words on such unnecessary stuff. Nearly 100 pages were dedicated the time spent tracking the bandits and then about another 100 were spent on Kvothe’s time with the faeries. That. Was. Not. Necessary. That is way too many words.I understand that Rothfuss has a plan but I couldn’t take not knowing what I was reading for that long. The bandit story should have been half of that but he drew it out. The faeire story? I actually skipped it because for about 50 pages Kvothe is in bed with this faeire chick. Really? I need to hear how beautiful and dangerous she is for 50 pages? And how AMAZING sex is? Come on, sex is fun and good and it adds to a story, but not like this. I even skipped the parts of the faerie world once they left bed because I was just so freaking tired of that story line. And that took up nearly another 50.

    So then he gets out. I start reading again. And his description of sex with the redheaded girl in the inn was pretty repulsive. I’m glad that you’re time with higher beings gives you leave to be a sexist jerk, Kvothe /sarcasm

    BUT I can get over that if the story improves (though it IS really hard) but now suddenly we’re going to a different land? I’m sorry, if I felt more like it had something to do with the PLOT I would have been ok with it but it just felt like these were all side quests. Really long side quests that while in some small way contribute to the larger story they spend too much time ambling on before telling me WHAT they have to do with the larger plot. So I stopped reading at that point because it felt very self indulgent. Like the first half of the book was edited and here he and his editor fought about making something more concise and eventually the editor just gave up so they could get the book OUT.

    I have two people who have read it who agreed that it started rambling, though unlike me they finished it, and one person who was genuinely offended that I didn’t adore it as much as he did. But I have other books to read and if it’s going to take me two weeks to read 200 pages because I’m bored? I can’t keep going.

    So in conclusion to my OWN rambling, I agree with you to an extent and I disagree with you a smidgen 😛

  6. Yes, I believe you may be right about editing, Jenna. The first half of the novel is taut and polished, but the second half meanders and drags and doesn’t have the coherence of the first part. It seemed as if he was trying desperately to protract the story–and I have no idea why he felt the need to do so. Even minus the extraneous information, this book still would have been at least 800 pages long.

    All the self-indulgences you have listed are spot on, so I’d say we agree more than disagree. 🙂

  7. I never thought about reading Name of the Wind to kids to be honest. I always saw it as an adult book. If for no other reason than the size of it. While I’m not saying kids can’t follow large novels it just seems so very hefty.

    I have to admit that I didn’t think of it as a sort of Mary Sue move until reading this but I do now. And I don’t know, maybe it’s the criticism from other series I’ve been hearing lately but now I can’t think of it as anything BUT.

    And I am glad that someone else felt like his attitude toward women was a little off after the devirgining. I was afraid I was overreacting and truth be told I CAN get past attitudes like that from the right character (if they are punished for it, if they are jerk and/or bad guy etc) but the line about how sometimes you just feel like good old home cooking was so objectifying it made me mad.

    Still, had he chosen to add a sex scene or 10 that spanned only a page or two and were less, well, cavemanish IS a good word, then I think I wouldn’t have noticed.

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